[Rock-dev] rock-users vs robotics.stackexchange.com

Discussion:

Sylvain Joyeux

2014-04-30 12:36:15 UTC

Jakob asked on robotics.stackexchange.com if we could use it for Rock
questions. The answer was "yes".
http://meta.robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/228/using-robotics-sx-for-our-robotics-software-framework

So, what should we use / promote ? rock-users or
robotics.stackexchange.com? Having both seem a bit too much to me...

My vote:
-1 to have both
+1 stackexchange

Sylvain
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Raul Dominguez

2014-04-30 12:59:52 UTC

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My vote:
+1 stackexchange

Thomas is on holidays and I think he would like to take part in the
decision.

Ra?l

Post by Sylvain Joyeux
Jakob asked on robotics.stackexchange.com
<http://robotics.stackexchange.com> if we could use it for Rock
questions. The answer was "yes".
http://meta.robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/228/using-robotics-sx-for-our-robotics-software-framework
So, what should we use / promote ? rock-users or
robotics.stackexchange.com <http://robotics.stackexchange.com> ?
Having both seem a bit too much to me...
-1 to have both
+1 stackexchange
Sylvain
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Javier Hidalgo Carrió

2014-05-04 08:53:39 UTC

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+1 stackexchange

Javi.

Post by Sylvain Joyeux
+1 stackexchange
Thomas is on holidays and I think he would like to take part in the
decision.
Ra?l

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Ra?l Dom?nguez (M.Sc.)
Space Robotics
Universit?t Bremen
FB 3 - Mathematik und Informatik
AG Robotik
Robert-Hooke-Stra?e 1
28359 Bremen, Germany
Zentrale: +49 421 178 45-6611
Robert-Hooke-Stra?e 5
28359 Bremen, Germany
Tel.: +49 421 178 45-6617
Empfang: +49 421 178 45-6600
Fax: +49 421 178 45-4150
E-Mail:Raul.Dominguez at uni-bremen.de
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Jakob Schwendner

2014-05-06 08:18:10 UTC

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Jakob asked on robotics.stackexchange.com <http://robotics.stackexchange.com>
if we could use it for Rock questions. The answer was "yes".
http://meta.robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/228/using-robotics-sx-for-our-robotics-software-framework
<http://meta.robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/228/using-robotics-sx-for-our-robotics-software-framework>
So, what should we use / promote ? rock-users or robotics.stackexchange.com
<http://robotics.stackexchange.com> ? Having both seem a bit too much to me...
-1 to have both
+1 stackexchange

I just set up a first question and added a rock tag. (I don't have tag editing
rights, so we'll have to wait for the description until its reviewed)
http://robotics.stackexchange.com/q/2882/127

There is a feature to send questions for a specific tag to an email address. We
could set it up to send to rock-users. Its a good way to get notified as well.
Also, not all questions are fit for the stackexchange format, and they can
sometimes be quite strict about deleting question. For this reason, I would vote
to have both. By linking them through the notification feature I think it could
work.

cheers,

Jakob
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Sylvain Joyeux

2014-05-15 08:32:14 UTC

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Post by Jakob Schwendner
I just set up a first question and added a rock tag. (I don't have tag
editing rights, so we'll have to wait for the description until its
reviewed)
http://robotics.stackexchange.com/q/2882/127
There is a feature to send questions for a specific tag to an email
address. We could set it up to send to rock-users. Its a good way to get
notified as well. Also, not all questions are fit for the stackexchange
format, and they can sometimes be quite strict about deleting question. For
this reason, I would vote to have both. By linking them through the
notification feature I think it could work.

I would really not forward SE questions to the ML, as one cannot answer the
question by answering the emails. So, in the end it is noise on the ML and
does not benefit the SE discussions.

I would prefer having either SE or the ML and only add the other one if
there indeed is a problem. If there are open-ended discussions, maybe we
could still make them on rock-dev (as long as there is not too many of them
...)

Jakob Schwendner

2014-05-15 09:35:27 UTC

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Post by Jakob Schwendner
I just set up a first question and added a rock tag. (I don't have tag
editing rights, so we'll have to wait for the description until its reviewed)
http://robotics.stackexchange.com/q/2882/127
There is a feature to send questions for a specific tag to an email
address. We could set it up to send to rock-users. Its a good way to get
notified as well. Also, not all questions are fit for the stackexchange format,
and they can sometimes be quite strict about deleting question. For this
reason, I would vote to have both. By linking them through the notification
feature I think it could work.
I would really not forward SE questions to the ML, as one cannot answer the
question by answering the emails. So, in the end it is noise on the ML and
does not benefit the SE discussions.

To me this would be similar to the issue tracking mails we get from track. I like those, and don't consider them noise.

Post by Jakob Schwendner
I would prefer having either SE or the ML and only add the other one if there
indeed is a problem. If there are open-ended discussions, maybe we could
still make them on rock-dev (as long as there is not too many of them ...)

rock-dev should imho stay as it is. I thought the discussion was on rock-users.
Announcements from sx would also only go to rock-users.

Post by Jakob Schwendner
From a "strategic" point of view, SE would give some visibility to rock, so I
would like to favor it.

I agree. But I don't see why having rock-users as some sort of announce list would harm that point.
It also allows to ask questions that don't fit the sx format, and have discussions, which is also not allowed on sx.

I don't see a harm in using both, If we see it creates problems, we can always close rock-users and tell everyone to only use sx.

Cheers,

Jakob

Jakob Schwendner

2014-05-15 10:48:58 UTC

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Post by Jakob Schwendner
I agree. But I don't see why having rock-users as some sort of
announce list would harm that point.
It also allows to ask questions that don't fit the sx format, and have
discussions, which is also not allowed on sx. I don't see a harm in using both,
If we see it creates problems, we can always close rock-users and tell
everyone to only use sx.
Discussions about answers to a specific question *are* allowed. What is not
allowed is an open-ended question.

Given our track record of discussions, they are likely to be open ended... :)

Post by Jakob Schwendner
Removing is always a lot harder than adding. There are always people that
will get more used to mails than SX and therefore will push back against its
removal.
IMO, having both will lead to confusion: "I have a question to ask, should I do
it on SX or on rock-users ?" which reduces the usefulness of both (since SX
won't have the mails, you can't use it to check if your question was already
asked).

How about this: ask all questions directly on SX as a policy, and use the ML as an announce system for the questions and other things. E.g. new features, releases, issues. And things that clearly don't belong on SX. ML is also nice, because you can see who we are reaching with rock.

Cheers,

Jakob

Sylvain Joyeux

2014-05-16 12:45:53 UTC

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Post by Jakob Schwendner

Post by Jakob Schwendner
IMO, having both will lead to confusion: "I have a question to ask,

should I do

Post by Jakob Schwendner
it on SX or on rock-users ?" which reduces the usefulness of both (since

Post by Jakob Schwendner
won't have the mails, you can't use it to check if your question was

already

Post by Jakob Schwendner
asked).

How about this: ask all questions directly on SX as a policy, and use the
ML as an announce system for the questions and other things. E.g. new
features, releases, issues. And things that clearly don't belong on SX. ML
is also nice, because you can see who we are reaching with rock.

That's more or less what I also had in mind in my last email ...

But rock-users sounds like a bad name to me. Would rock-talk sound fine ?

Sylvain
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